tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post8460352207689307546..comments2023-10-24T03:51:26.482-04:00Comments on Virginia Belle: Proper First Date Behavior (Part1)Virginia Bellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09139549722127680662noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-80160038600531379242007-08-25T14:07:00.000-04:002007-08-25T14:07:00.000-04:00Wow. Too many comments to read. I did want to add ...Wow. Too many comments to read. I did want to add mine though. ha <BR/><BR/>First. I feel like the points are a little skewed towards the negative side. Granted there were several ways to get points; however, it seems that if you lose points, you always lose big. sucks.<BR/><BR/>Second. Carrying guns is not cool IMHO. It may be your thang...but since when did a gun do much but kill. If a guy is a real man, and the circumstance of another human drawing a gun on you happened (.01% chance).....he would take the bullet for you, then kill the other guy. <BR/><BR/>Third. Opening doors should be policy. Its not. but thats how you start off on a good foot.<BR/><BR/>Fourth. Thanks for helping me kill some time.Intensifire3https://www.blogger.com/profile/03405561017395751032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-68766207325258396392007-08-09T16:49:00.000-04:002007-08-09T16:49:00.000-04:00"what does TT's being a dancer have to do with flo..."what does TT's being a dancer have to do with flowers"<BR/><BR/>Yes, TT is EGF Version 3.0.<BR/>After a concert, it's customary to give the performer flowers. <BR/><BR/>As a librarian, I guess I would give you...uhh...a dozen copies of the Red Badge of Courage? :)Phantom Haterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16201889982177934778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-36886570374441227102007-08-09T15:20:00.000-04:002007-08-09T15:20:00.000-04:00MJ- ugh. don't even get me started on that guy.PH ...MJ- ugh. don't even get me started on that guy.<BR/><BR/>PH -- what does TT's being a dancer have to do with flowers? do i not get flowers because i'm a librarian? i am assuming TT is EGF 3.0? and yes, red roses are so cliche. so are apology flowers. i have a friend who hates flowers now, because all it means to her is that her man fucked up. not a good association. good answer to crackfire. i think that's fair.<BR/><BR/>meish -- yes, those guys are few and far between! definitely raised right! (er, properly...as grammar rules would dictate...)Virginia Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09139549722127680662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-6662416059794824192007-08-09T12:11:00.000-04:002007-08-09T12:11:00.000-04:00i also love doors opened for me, but i ALWAYS make...i also love doors opened for me, but i ALWAYS make a point to say thank you.<BR/><BR/>being california born and bred, last summer was the VERY FIRST TIME that this guy at work would stand at the table at lunch and wait for me to sit down first. turns out he was raised in virginia. i felt weird and embarrassed at first, but it was such a nice gesture and i never expect it out of any other guy i know, but it can't help but make me feel special.meishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01346936590886162448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-49490566998898931952007-08-08T17:53:00.000-04:002007-08-08T17:53:00.000-04:00"He got white roses and put blue food coloring in ..."He got white roses and put blue food coloring in the water."<BR/><BR/>That's pretty dumb. At least he tried, I guess. I was thinking more along the lines of a multi-colored bouquet with the dominant color being her fave. <BR/><BR/>TT is a dancer, so I've probably gotten her more flowers than anyone I've ever dated. <BR/><BR/>Flowers by themselves (especially red roses) require no thought or real effort. Any schmoe can pick them up at a florist or grocery store. I've never really understood why girls love them so much. <BR/><BR/>~crackfire -- I would say in that case, it would definitely be best to meet somewhere. That's a long drive for a first date, although you know if a guy does it, he is probably into you.Phantom Haterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16201889982177934778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-65758661290472718402007-08-08T16:49:00.000-04:002007-08-08T16:49:00.000-04:00Ug... this reminds me of one idiot I dated that as...Ug... this reminds me of one idiot I dated that asked me my favorite color.... which is blue.... so what did he do? He got white roses and put blue food coloring in the water. Not only did they look like crap, but they also spilled all over my ex-roomate's tile counter, completely staining it. Idiot.<BR/><BR/>I've had quite a few guys bring me flowers in the past... whether they were store bought or wild... totally cute.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16582197758495130139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-47092359791247358182007-08-08T15:26:00.000-04:002007-08-08T15:26:00.000-04:00holy cow. i don't even know where to begin. i'm am...holy cow. i don't even know where to begin. i'm amazed at the popularity of these posts, considering how dateless i am...<BR/><BR/>MJ -- ok, you will probably never be as old-fashioned as me. i'll give you that. but even you admit it's nice to feel special. :)<BR/><BR/>stuckey -- i look forward to your rebuttal at the end of the series. i think the Southern Gentleman is NOT dead. you and other guys (who have commented here) have proven that chivalry and manners are still around. i am saying, they are still valued by a lot of women. <BR/><BR/>len -- true, sometimes a jacket just doesn't match my outfit. but sometimes, i honestly think my body is just...easily chilled. and the scientists in that article have apparently proven it.<BR/><BR/>kimmy -- the hand on the small of the back? that's waaaaay past good manners, and into "things that turn me on! +500!!" -- but that's just me. it's HOT.<BR/><BR/>rwa-- i'm glad this is educational. i am trying to explain not only the "what" but also the "why". for example, do not look in their underwear drawer, because we will fear you are thinking about trying it on. see?<BR/><BR/>jonathan -- sounds like you don't need to read these posts! what was long, your comment or my post?<BR/><BR/>baja-- ugh. that sounds terribly inconsiderate. if he's like that on the first date, i think you saved yourself a lot of hassle. imagine what he'd be like on your birthday. when people show you who they the first time, believe them.<BR/><BR/>alison -- *curtsies*<BR/><BR/>lowtide-- i LOVE that story! too funny. and the Southern Gentleman must not be dead, or else you (and my other male readers) wouldn't be opening doors. right?<BR/><BR/>cmk -- be glad you are only reading about it and not living it. it's a jungle out here.<BR/><BR/>tazna -- you are worth it, aren't you??? i mean, it's not like it's HARD.<BR/><BR/>teahouse -- you and me both! sometimes i carry deo with me on first dates. just in case. your fiance is proof that door opening is not a Southern thing. it's a gentlemanly, manners thing.<BR/><BR/>one girl -- good! i'm glad you like them. i was worried i was being all Southern Belle on these, but I know you live in Brooklyn, so these must be universal truths, right? :) an yes, that is cute how he did that. too bad he's an asshole, indeed...<BR/><BR/>crackfire -- you know, people who live in big cities have asked me this before. and i'm just not sure. on one hand, i'm thinking, "what, you're not worth a 2 hour car ride?" but on the other hand, that is a significant amount of time. so my answer is this: now you know why i don't do long distance relationships. ;D <BR/><BR/>meghan -- if a guy sat in his car and beeped, he might as well keep on driving. because i sure as hell am not coming out of my house for that crap.<BR/><BR/>MJ -- i bet the guy ended up being really selfish and wrapped up in himself, didn't he? as far as flowers on first dates are concerned, um, that is news to me. is that a yankee thing? i don't expect gifts except on birthdays and holidays. shit, flowers on a first date would definitely score points, though...way to raise the bar, MJ.<BR/><BR/>PH-- you should be writing these posts. you are right on. and waiting to find out her favorite flower color? cha-ching! no wonder you can't shake EGF! you are on it, dude!<BR/><BR/>i try my darndest not to take stuff for granted. i'm not saying i'm perfect about it, but then again, neither is the guy. eventually guys stop complimenting or going to extra lengths to impress me. so i figure it's even. and that's ok. if no one gets pissy about it, that just means we're in our comfy zone. :)<BR/><BR/>crackfire -- i answered it, right? i mean, kinda. we need a guy's perspective on this....it's a tough question. if we were talking an hour away, then my opinion would be different. but two?? i don't know...Virginia Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09139549722127680662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-64188487880470917392007-08-08T13:59:00.000-04:002007-08-08T13:59:00.000-04:00~PH I also asked a question I know I may be not as...~PH <BR/>I also asked a question I know I may be not as cute but dang it ANSWER :Dcrackfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245638671391196228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-11949731373597439492007-08-08T12:49:00.000-04:002007-08-08T12:49:00.000-04:00As far as the Southern Gentleman hooey, let me jus...As far as the Southern Gentleman hooey, let me just say this--I *know* girls appreciate doors being held and stuff like that. They all do. The girl who didn't in one of these comments needs to do a penis check, 'cause that's just stupid. I also always try to go around and open the passenger door (within reason) when she gets in, and walk on the outside of the sidewalk. Most women apparently don't even expect it and it can make for some awkwardness when you both try to open the door at the same time, but whatev. <BR/><BR/>My problem is that at some point, *all* women will start taking nice gestures for granted. At least, I haven't found one who doesn't. That's the cynic in me. Early dating is, to me, cake. Every nice thing you do in the beginning gets lots of points, but nothing later on unless you dole it out in small portions. Modern women see you as more of a whipped puppy than a gentleman. <BR/><BR/>~mj - I say, no flowers on the first date. Overdone and cheesey. I'm also not a big fan of red roses. I like to find out a girl's favorite color or type of flower and use that later on for flower choice.Phantom Haterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16201889982177934778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-4996389961160668522007-08-08T11:06:00.000-04:002007-08-08T11:06:00.000-04:00Ok... now that I have found my eyeballs and a rece...Ok... now that I have found my eyeballs and a recent horoscope told me to stop being so frigid... I'll admit something: <BR/>I went on a date a couple months back, and the guy didn't open the door for me. I even hesitated in front of the door, and he didn't make a move for it. All I could think was "what is wrong with you? where are your manners?" Obviously, I have been infested by the southern bug because, when I moved down here... my take was "I have my own set of arms and am perfectly capable of opening things by myself." Oh, also... whatever happened to bringing flowers on the first date???????Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16582197758495130139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-22101338205245102902007-08-08T10:01:00.000-04:002007-08-08T10:01:00.000-04:00Again I love your posts, but you already knew that...Again I love your posts, but you already knew that....<BR/><BR/>Totally agree with the door openings. I am a stickler for guys coming to the door when they pick me up. I remember the one time when I was about 16, my ex-asshole just sat outside beeping his horn expecting me to come running out. Well, Papa M wouldnt let me out of the house until ex-asshole came to the door. Did I mention that I waited in the house for about 20 minutes? Asshole.Meghan (The Declaration of MY Independence)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08437426078664351801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-21722045838215270492007-08-08T01:48:00.000-04:002007-08-08T01:48:00.000-04:00I have a question what if your date lives all the ...I have a question what if your date lives all the way on the other side of the city and it would take him a good 2 hrs to pick you up, then shouldn't you meet up at a place that is easily recheable by both of you ?<BR/><BR/>I am all for opening the doors and complementing and all the other stuff.crackfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245638671391196228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-5191141953319021652007-08-07T21:38:00.000-04:002007-08-07T21:38:00.000-04:00oh, and I love it when my date opens doors for me ...oh, and I love it when my date opens doors for me :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-46523885960054389452007-08-07T21:37:00.000-04:002007-08-07T21:37:00.000-04:00I love love love these posts! You are too funny (...I love love love these posts! You are too funny (in the absolute best way). <BR/><BR/>I was joking around with a guy once on the phone before a first date and he said (jokingly) that he would pick me up at my house at 7:08pm. He buzzed my door on the DOT- so cute. I found out weeks later, when we were bf/gf, that he actually got to my apartment 15 minutes early and wandered around the neighborhood waiting to ring my bell at just the right minute (awwwwwww!).<BR/><BR/>Too bad he turned out to be an @$$ hole!<BR/><BR/>I'm totally thinking that you need to do a series of these posts except for girls involving how to find a halfway decent guy :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-11191989433838934452007-08-07T21:17:00.000-04:002007-08-07T21:17:00.000-04:00Oh, and I should add that the door opening thing i...Oh, and I should add that the door opening thing is definitely very important. I grew up in the Deep South, and my Fiance was born and raised in NYC. But he impressed me from day 1 with his door opening prowess.teahousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222848511993932548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-58956538258260348902007-08-07T21:15:00.000-04:002007-08-07T21:15:00.000-04:00Fun post to read!And unlike most girls, I get real...Fun post to read!<BR/><BR/>And unlike most girls, I get really warm and sweaty really quick. Always worried about whether my deodorant is working...teahousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222848511993932548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-64383528753794298272007-08-07T19:21:00.000-04:002007-08-07T19:21:00.000-04:00I've never really worried or taken note about the ...I've never really worried or taken note about the whole door thingy but.....NOW I WILL!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04460556085885590399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-30602143912418052452007-08-07T18:24:00.000-04:002007-08-07T18:24:00.000-04:00I am just having the most fun reading these posts!...I am just having the most fun reading these posts! Seeing as I have been married for longer than a lot of you have been alive, this is an education I wouldn't be getting any other way! Keep it up, VB, you're doing a great job.cmkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17984250869194585666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-31306354455761582782007-08-07T17:56:00.000-04:002007-08-07T17:56:00.000-04:00I agree with the comments above. The Southern Gen...I agree with the comments above. The Southern Gentleman was savagely beaten to death. I always hold the door open for a woman and stand when a woman enters the room. It is just the way my momma raised me.<BR/><BR/>True story, a couple of years ago I was walking into a store and held the door open for a lady walking in behind me. She had the audacity to tell me that she was liberated and could open her own doors. Being a Southern Gentleman, I did not say anything back to her. However, when I walked out of the store later, I saw a guy hooking up jumper cables to her car. I guess she could open doors but not jump start her car.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-44337924710149843232007-08-07T17:52:00.000-04:002007-08-07T17:52:00.000-04:00You are so cute. :)You are so cute. :)Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16885128896437455570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-70852332342544591132007-08-07T16:09:00.000-04:002007-08-07T16:09:00.000-04:00Amen about the being late thing. The last date I...Amen about the being late thing. The last date I went on the guy changed the time 3 times (he is a farmer) and I ended up having to rush at the last minute. I managed to make it to the restuarant by 8:07 (date at 8:00). Which I think is acceptable for a girl. He didn't show until after 8:30 and didn't apologize. Needless to say the date just went down hill from there.Lexie Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18098341595017424673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-7400813049207805522007-08-07T14:48:00.000-04:002007-08-07T14:48:00.000-04:00And Southern Gentlemen still do exist, we have jus...And Southern Gentlemen still do exist, we have just been beat down, chewed up and spit out and twisted in so many directions over the years it really is hard to know which way is up.But when I am on a date, first or otherwise, I do these things. In fact, I hold the door for women in general whether I am dating them or not. It is about respect; holding the door, asking if she needs more heat or a cool air, picking her up at her house(even though I am guilty of doing the lets meet somewhere, but it worked out in the end)and so on and so on. Anyway, this is longer than I thought it would be.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04741628474644880465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-91336216030879217972007-08-07T14:12:00.000-04:002007-08-07T14:12:00.000-04:00Damn, this is educational.You forgot in #3, about ...Damn, this is educational.<BR/><BR/>You forgot in #3, about the various things to "check out," to include her lingerie drawer.<BR/><BR/>That is OK - isn't it?<BR/><BR/>And good point about opening doors. I'd much rather risk -5 than -2,000!!!!Southern (in)Sanityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161448234899521650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-75462260776953675052007-08-07T14:07:00.000-04:002007-08-07T14:07:00.000-04:00I'm big on having the door held open for me too. ...I'm big on having the door held open for me too. It's just good manners.<BR/><BR/>Also, what about gently putting his hand on your back as if to steer you along when you are walking through a really crowded area and he is behind you. I think that is ok. Makes ya feel kind of protected without being to touchy feely.kimmykins13https://www.blogger.com/profile/03975995189429999303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18879154.post-47274798459904589212007-08-07T13:51:00.000-04:002007-08-07T13:51:00.000-04:00Um, that thing about feeling cold. I mean, maybe i...Um, that thing about feeling cold. I mean, maybe it proves that women never dress warm enough while men do?Lenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853080792066263819noreply@blogger.com